What I most liked about this lens was its size and weight. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1G6EcVwzbhkcRRlMVv1xLlVPtqSryD6Bg/view?usp=sharing. I'm not a video guy so serious question - is Panasonic video better than SONY APS video? Which must be better than anything. Equivalent lens provides the same amount of light for the smaller sensor. Truth is, the MFT 300mm is nothing like a 600mm, it's only a heavily cropped 300mm (down to 25%). Long-zoom compacts fill the gap between pocketable cameras and interchangeable lens models with expensive lenses, offering a great combination of lens reach and portability. If you’ve got a small MFT camera, attaching a big lens to the front kind of defeats the benefits of the format if you ask me. Whether you've grown tired of what came with your DSLR, or want to start photographing different subjects, a new lens is probably in order. And I bet quite some specimens of either group will check out the 32 MP APS-C sensor and possibly see that crop can be better, depending on what they do. You can believe that the Earth is flat, if you want. It would be the same amount of light ... if the sensor was the same area. This lens will not do that quickly, regardless of how good you are. You need to think about everything from ISO to aperture to shutter speed and finally focus. Great every day manual lens. Nikon's new entry-level mirrorless full-framer feels anything but entry-level. This lens feels like something from the best film era vintage lenses and is well-sized to match the size of smaller MFT camera bodies. It's not f1:2, it's F1.2. @cosmicnode"I did not say there was a advantage in the specific lens simply the ablility to use a faster shutter speed"- No, there is no such ability or advantage of faster shutter speed. Not F0:95, only F0.95. Would you use a lens like this? We've selected our favorite lenses for Sony mirrorlses cameras in several categories to make your decisions easier. I like the ergonomics and build quality of Olympus. "not necessarily a fact" - But it's "good enough" for me :)Download the RAWs and then compare the noise. Use focus peaking and not markings for distance (everyone should do this anyway). If your subjective opinion would be that the shallowness of a 35mm f/1.8 full-frame lens wouldn't be shallow enough for your tastes, that opinion would be perfectly valid, but others who would rather compare it to a 35mm f/2.8 prime or to the usual bunch of full-frame 'standard zooms' at 35mm would still be fully justified to call it 'shallow'. @BrentSchumer: "Lenses are available by searching B&H for e mount FF at 30/35mm/40mm and aperture < 2" – thanks for not helping. I will give that a try on my OMD EM-10 II just for fun. An ultra-fast f/1.8 maximum aperture not only creates smooth bokeh with its rounded 7blade diaphragm, but also offers great low-light performance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field, "don't blame others if they think that you have no idea about even the most primitive basics of photography and you're making a sorry fool of yourself by preaching ignorance of a 'the earth is flat' quality as 'the truth'". They’re widely different. Full frame equivalence is irrelevant to users of M4/3 cameras.Is this lens going to let in more light than my Olympus f/1.8? Many focus on technical specifications and others focus on sharpness and precision of the optics. It features an aperture range of F0.95-F16, uses a nine-blade aperture diaphragm, has a 58mm front filter thread and has a minimum focusing distance of 30cm (11.8”). Laowa is a true contender in lower cost high quality lenses. Aperture is aperture; it's a well understood measurement. I was able to custom set my camera’s buttons to allow me to set one button for magnification and another for focus peaking. I said if someone were to take the same optical design and simply upscale it to be 2x in each dimension. They also feel pretty plastic. "give me this ... give me that ..." - Not for free.Best wildlife photographers are using FF, for a good reason. It cannot consistently produce A2-ready ultra-high-def imagery. The Laowa 17mm f/1.8 for Micro Four Thirds (M43) cameras. Please, just stop there, while you are correct about something. It is defined for an enlarged, viewed, displayed, printed image. @Mr BoltonSame ISO number on FF is 2 stops cleaner. The new high-performance SSDs use a PCIe 4.0 interface to achieve their maximum speeds, but are also backwards compatible with the more common PCIe 3.0 interface and still offer a performance boost over their 970 Pro predecessors. Kapish? Of course different size formats have different depth of field but that doesn’t mean one is better than the other.In fact a f.95 lens on a MFT camera would be more usable to focus than a f.95 lens for full frame. Flange distance may not be accurate, for focusing to infinity on the barrel and then taking a photo doesn't give me infinity... have to focus just 1-2mm below that marker. That is my main system. is a photographer, writer, educator, and engineer that specializes in both portraits of people and pets but also creates stunning landscape and nature photography. I like the portability of the smaller cameras. The Fujifilm XF 50mm F1.0 R WR promises to be great for portraiture. As a consequence, I had forgotten about the slower process of taking photographs when all you had was a split prism and a needle for a light meter. Small. RGKit Play, the first modular wireless motion control kit, has launched on Kickstarter. Some famous photographers have operated with only lenses in this range. An aperture of F 0:95 is precisely that. "Best wildlife photographers are using FF, for a good reason" – by your subjective definition of "best"? And it's just the other way round — your claim would be right if *you* were staying inside one system, if you would have compared a MFT lens to a MFT lens. It's small, light, and feels well built. FF doesn't need to be stopped down. It is not the sharpest (even when you nail focus) and it is clear that when fully wide open, the lens is sharper in the center of the image but softer at the edges. So, the MFT actually need the IBIS more than FF. Can only be subjective. The American Optical 81mm f/0.38 would need an entrance pupil of over 200mm. And I rarely go higher than ISO 640. Just what I hoped it would be! “Please stop mistyping the F-stops. Tamron deems the lens, which is set to go on sale starting October 29, ‘the world’s smallest and lightest telephoto zoom lens for Sony E-mount full-frame mirrorless cameras.’. Dan Cuny had wanted to travel to Machu Picchu ever since he was ten years old. Soft? Actually, when I added FF to my gear after a long time of exclusively shooting MFT, when choosing lenses for shooting with the FF camera, I kept converting their specs to "MFT-equivalent" figures in my mind :-), And then, buying a lens is another matter altogether. actually not quite as shallow as I wish on a 35mm lens but at least now that fits the whole reason I bought a MFT, cheap, small, light weight. Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. This is not about "benefits", either, this is about correct comparisons. Good travel cameras should be small, versatile, and offer good image quality. This lens is quite a bit larger and heavier than the 25mm, which does diminish its advantages. It features an aperture range of F0.95-F16, uses a nine-blade aperture diaphragm, has a 58mm front filter thread and has a minimum focusing distance of 30cm (11.8”). "different size formats have different depth of field" - Wrong! @Hubertus Bigend. Yes it will. I don’t think m4/3 needs faster that f1:2 to achieve excellence. You're right. Actually currently Samyang introduce great 35 1.8 AF lens for Sony. You need to learn how photography works, before you post. Yeah, George doesn't seem to be a very smart guy :), ecka84: "Truth is, the MFT 300mm is nothing like a 600mm, it's only a heavily cropped 300mm" – no, that's not truth, that's BS nonsense. If you're OK with MF for comparison, they even sell you a F1.4 for $400. All content, design, and layout are Copyright © 1998 - 2020 Digital Photography Review All Rights Reserved. Details that describe the intangibles about the lens. The Mitakon Speedmaster 17mm F0.95 for MFT camera systems is available to purchase now on the ZY Optics website for $399. Let me end this for you guys...Hubertus is right. Comes with a little lens hood. "equivalence or whatever on a thread dedicated to a lens for MFT cameras is completely pointless""because I don't own a full frame camera"- We are here to suggest that maybe you should get a FF camera if you love the bokeh so much :). The one who claims, pays. What's the best camera for travel? The 'Q' stands for 'Quatsch,' which translates to 'nonsense' in German." Plus the images would have similar noise levels, similar DoF, similar everything.Of course, the smaller sensor cameras can't go to lower equivalent ISOs. MFT is great for certain applications (e.g. Wish this was APS-C as well, I rather like 17-18mm lenses on APS-C. By standard lens conventions, f-stop is defined in terms of light-gathering ability (so as you open a lens up by a stop, it takes in twice as much light). And "a" picture says nothing at all. Read on to learn about our favorite enthusiast long zoom cameras. A full frame camera won't make me a better photographer; it won't make anyone a better photographer. The focus is too jumpy for video, but the Sigma is really sharp and of course AF. “Which is no better than FF ISO 800. One does not (and can not) use the sensor size to do so. @Dan_168 As you approach f/0.5, things get unreasonably complex, so an f/0.95 is much harder than f/1.2, which in turn is a good bit harder than f/1.4. Wider lenses tend to be more forgiving when trying to focus them. But then I guess FF would be one stop cleaner of noise Or if motion allows, go 1/30 and let the camera's awesome IBIS give me.. equivalent? Box Contains. It is a great tool for still-lifes, close-ups, street and travel photography and should be in every photographers’ kit bag. I really enjoyed the Laowa 17mm f1.8 prime lens. Perhaps around $3k. Also, everyone chooses a lens only for their nominal focal length and relative aperture. MFT can't do that. The 300 FF really is just a cropped 300 MF. Long battery life, no overheating issues, shooting 4k with these kind of lenses is looking like a real strength of m43. Distant markings work best with film. @Ecka84 "You need faster shutter speed for higher density MFT chips" – Now you really shoudn't mention that on a first date or a job interview. The high-performance optical design incorporates one ED (extra-low dispersion) glass element that delivers high-definition images while minimizing ghosting and flare, broadening your shooting potential in challenging situations. The New Laowa 17mm f1.8 lens is a fully manual compact design with metal construction, a small metal hood and clear markings on the barrel, This lens fits 46mm threaded filters (common for MFT). At a 34mm FF equivalent, it provides a relatively wide field of view and a more forgiving range for focus. It is a great lens, not just a great for the price lens. "[T]he fact that you can't show me" is, point one, not necessarily a fact. Focal length is focal length; it's a well understood measurement. With the manual focus on this lens, not getting focus perfect can still result in usable images. For the first time since unveiling the technology earlier this year, you can purchase a Profoto speedlight with the company's smartphone-syncing AirX technology. If you could step beyond f/0.5, the lens would gather more light than it would radiate. Even fourty-year-old manual SLR lenses of this designation still cost substantial amounts of money, because they were expensive back in the days and because 35mm f/1.8 really is attractive, it's where wide-angle and the option to blur backgrounds meet in a really nice way. And the cost of proof stays on you, you can't squirm out like this. [cont'd]. 35mm equivalent isn't great for widefield astrophotography. will the 7.5mm even better?? LOTS of fun with this lens. This is my favorite focal length (~35mm full frame equivalent) and if you want this focal length in a manual metal lens, this is the best option. You're the first and so far only person I've met to state that claim, and I've met tons of BS in the defense of any system available in my way through digital photography forums. Not sure I've seen anything that stark in similar situations with the Voigt. The GH series is brilliant for video. However the 4/3 sensor will mean that the DoF is deeper by X 2. the FF camera can achieve a much more shallow DoF wide open at F0:95 but it would need to be stopped down to F1:8 , with possible adjustments to either ISO or shutter speed to a achieve a similar DoF and exposure. I shoot video at 1080, which is 2MP. So, have a nice day. Oh, FFS, you're the only one trying to sell a flat earth in this conversation, because you got caught making a false claim. Since the sensor is smaller, it works out to the same as a 35/1.9 on FF. However, at other times, it means that you really aren’t thinking much about the images you are taking. The lens is made from a single piece of thin glass, opening the door for a variety of potential new imaging applications from consumer tech to medical imaging. But that's a pretty good achievement considering you didn't have to pay for a FF sensor to get there. Actually even my Sigma 35 F1.2 is " only" 3.5X 5.4 inch and weights " only" 2.4 Lb not 7 Lb, LOL. Even better than the Olympus 17mm, the Sigma 16mm 1.4 is always $400. Explore Sony's latest face and eye-detection with photographer and Rancher Alyssa Henry. Because, smarter and even cheaper that's the better way of doing it. Now if that single 7Artisans FF E-Mount lens is the one exception from the rule that "you won't get any 35mm f/1.8 FF lenses much cheaper", then I stand corrected. On that note, I have the Canon EOS 50mm F1:2 L and the Olympus 25mm F1:2.Used on FF The canon was twice as expensive, heavier, slower focusing, the thin DoF requires some care if sharpness within a composition is required and I’m needing 1/50 to avoid shake.The much cheaper Olympus 25mm is sharp across the frame wide open, the IBIS lets me shoot at 1 second and I have never needed to go above base iso in any lighting situation. @alphoid good points. Reviewed in the United States on April 27, 2020. Beyond roughly f/1, the two start to diverge (and the whole equivalence thing falls apart too -- a hypothetical f/0.5 MFT would NOT give identical images to an f/1 FF, as one might predict). The Laowa 17mm f/1.8 for Micro Four Thirds (M43) cameras. With Newspaper Navigator, users can quickly search through more than a million images extracted from digitized historic American newspapers. Creators who get access to the Rights Manager can remove reposted images on Facebook and Instagram, add ownership links and more. Once the focus is set, the lens performs well. Great.Full manual focus and step less aperture ring? [cont'd] And regarding the results, I call BS. Even noise is less obvious when it changes frame-by-frame. I had a chance to slow down and smell the roses, or in this case, take more deliberate thoughtful images. Because the other sensor with that different size has a different circle of confusion that is applied on the focal plane, which is to ensure the same standards in images printed to the same size. I use magnification with MF lenses, focusing on an object 1/3 back from the closest subject based on my experience of DOF at different apertures and different FL lenses. Which just makes the BS in your lens crop theory more obvious, than when applied to MFT lenses, where it is just as wrong, except only of course for those (M)FT lenses which actually are reused FT designs. © 2006 - 2020 Digital Photography School, All Rights I like being able to adapt anything to my camera, and have it take photos (and sometimes interesting-looking photos!). It is a great tool that should be in every photographers’ kit bag. The lens is compact and weighs just 6oz (172g). This is a claim noone ever seems to have been making except you. ZY Optics has announced the release of its latest lens, the Mitakon Speedmaster 17mm F0.95 for Micro Four Thirds (MFT) camera systems. Also, different focal lengths produce inherently different levels of shallowness, so the 50mm lens you cite is no valid comparison to judge the shallowness of a 35mm (or 35mm equivalent) lens by in any case. It is an ideal lens for portraits, groups, landscapes, travel and all-purpose imagingThis lens has a 5.9” (15cm) minimum focusing distance that greatly benefits shooting details and smaller subjects. Not only it is possible to have larger than f/0.5 apertures, but one already exists: f/0.33 Super-Q-Gigantar 40mm. And stopping it down to even f/1.2 helps a fair bit. Cool!That is all that matters. They do have busy bokeh, but while the M4/3 Mitakon 25mm/f0.95 is not sharp per se, it is about as good as an average vintage 50mm/f1.4 (like my Pentax Super Takumar) wide open on FF. I will run through the technical specifications of the Laowa 17mm f1.8 lens as they have some interesting but limited impact on this review (aside from the price). 4k is annoying to edit and store, and 1080 is good enough for me. Check out what this miniaturized full-frame combo is capable of. Note that it does not say camera sensor size. Ultimately it all boils down to those two lines. Venus Laowa 17mm f/1.8 Wide Angle Lens for MFT Mount, Focus as close as 5.9” (15cm) from sensor, Previous page of related Sponsored Products. @Kurgo - Sure, but you need an FF body to put those 35mm/f1.8 lenses on. @cosmicnode: stop making "those who shoot m4/3" stupider than they are, some do care (I, for one, do, because I like to know my gear and how it fits into the general picture). @PortableLover Last time I compared, yes. That's why equivalence maters. And I rarely go higher than ISO 640. It is not others who are responsible for these discussions or who would be starting them, or that omninous 'equivalence', it is people like you making objectively false statements about gear because they decide to ignore reality, laws of physics and even sheer geometry. I am old enough to have shot film with manual film cameras. @aleqx Yeah Sony's MFT lenses are terrible. This is what is relevant: a FF camera with a 35mm f/1.9 camera always could do everything that a MFT camera with a 17mm f/0.95 can do. "exposures would be identical assuming the same transmission or T stop"- Not really. Sony's a7C is among the smallest full-frame mirrorless cameras you can buy, and in terms of core capability, not much has been sacrificed for the sake of compactness. The new Color Grading panel will replace the current Split Tone panel, bringing with it the ability to now control the color of midtones, as well as a more refined wheel-based interface for making more precise edits. this is a 35mm f1.3 FF equivalent. Richard Wong has a full review of it. @whawha: Sorry for giving possible reason for you to feel sorry ;-) – Unfortunately, noone can ever be sure, whatever they say, whether they might be attracting zealots who spread utter BS about technical and physical realities that someone else then will feel the need to set right. It's an interesting optical design because it's compact enough and cheap enough one could do sensibly that. Image brightness would be identical, but the MFT image would be 2 stops noisier, because it would be produced out of 4 times lower amount of light, due to 4 times smaller sensor. To calculate the overall star rating and percentage breakdown by star, we don’t use a simple average. The LAOWA 17mm is equivalent to a … These all-manual 3rd party lenses are upscaling. For what it is, though, it's nice, and I'll continue using it often. "never needed to go above base iso" - Which is no better than FF ISO 800. Please try your search again later. Nothing else really matters, but if you want to know, it's of course that you *can* use equivalent ISO on FF without getting into a disadvantage. I won't :). MFT) more than fifteen years ago, I oppose wrong statements about (M)FT. Just as I do oppose wrong statements about other systems where and when I happen to be confronted by them. So, if I want to use a focus ring that works properly, I'll still have to go back to my old film careras. It takes time. BrentSchumer “Full frame equivalent” is sales BS. The 17mm manual focus lens is constructed of 12 elements in 9 groups and offers a 34mm full-frame equivalent focal length when attached to a MFT camera (63º angle of view). @Brent Schumer: yes to all. I have the Laowa for mft and tried zone focusing using aperture priority and the zone focus markings on the lens but found photos to be noticeably out of focus so am doubtful how accurate these Chinese lenses' zone markings are. It is also not clear that the lens ever progressed beyond "development" phase, but if it did I would like to see pictures of it... and pictures taken with it! I own Panasonic Lumix LX-10 and it's a great camera. I have other similar prime lenses, but all are equipped with autofocus and electronic apertures. The seven-bladed iris allows for very nice starbursts at night. We are not talking about 35mm lenses here. It's something where it's super-easy to mess something critical up, and have a useless or buggy product.
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